Diode laser
On: Thu, Nov 29, 01 06:18:36 AM
Stefano Sica wrote:
| Dear Friends,
Is best aquire 50 mw 655 nm or 30 mw 635 nm ?
Is only matter of cost or 50 mw 655 nm furnish more power
for holography with Slavich films? This films have better
sensivity at 635 nm and minor at 655 nm. |
RESPONSES
Colin Kaminski - Thu, Nov 29, 01 12:50:30 PM
I was told by the owner of Laser-Max that the 635nm diodes
mode hop with a smaller change in temperature than the
660nm diodes. If you can keep their frequencies stable I
think the lower the wavelength the better.
In reality I know of no one who has tried. He tried the 635
mw lasers for interferometry. Also I am sure the diodes
will evolve. He wrote me that in June of 2001.
Please let us know what you find. 64.167.149.132
Jonathan - Fri, Nov 30, 01 02:59:01 PM
Colin is right - if your diode is prone to mode hopping it
will play havoc with the quality of your holograms, and
drive you crazy. And if shorter wavelength diodes are
harder to keep stable then I would avoid them, unless you
have a very good heat sink, and a quality drive circuit.
I had a problem which I believe is due to mode hopping. Has
anyone seen this?
My transmission holograms looked a bit like interferograms.
The virtual image would display the "contour" lines that
you see in double-exposure images. At first I thought the
problem was movement, but this proved not to be the case.
And the real image side of the hologram would show an
arcing secondary interference pattern, seen clearly when
the film is held up to a room ceiling light.
Worst of all the problem was intermittent. Sometimes it was
severe, and sometimes the hologram was perfectly fine. Two
shots in a row, with nothing changed, could produce one
good one and one that looked like an interferogram. Very
frustrating.
It all points to a problem of mode hopping, I believe. When
it occurs the jumps are in discrete amounts - which would
explain the "two exposure" effect I describe above. Has
anyone seen this problem? Is this hypothesis correct?
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Tom B. - Sat, Dec 01, 01 04:39:10 AM
Jonathan -
Your guess sounds reasonable, but I don't know.
Something I stumbled across when playing with
an interferometer setup - I connected a photodiode
to an audio amplifier with headphone output and
positioned the photodiode to intercept some of
the spread beam. I'll be darned if I didn't hear
occasional clicks as the diode warmed up, accompanied
by jerks in the fringe pattern. Sometimes I heard
waves of raspy noise come and go, during which time the
fringes were washed out. If (and this is just conjecture)
you can hear mode hopping, you might be able to get
a better handle on the stability problem, or at least
time your exposures to take place during quiet periods.
Anyway, if anyone can confirm (or debunk) this
observation, I'd be interested in their reports.
You don't need a fancy photodiode - I also tried a
cheapo solar cell and it worked OK, though
it was quite sensitive to vibration (microphonics).
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Tom B. - Sat, Dec 01, 01 02:26:28 PM
Re the last bit - the reason I mentioned the vibration
sensitivity of the solar cell was not that it is a problem
in a quiet stable setup, but that I nearly blew out my
eardrums when I dropped it with headphones on and the
gain turned way up. Ouch!
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Joe Farina - Sat, Dec 01, 01 02:44:40 PM
Jonathan,
Based on the literature I've read, and upon my own
experience, I think you are right, those contour lines are
due to mode-hopping. I used a 35mW Hitachi diode to do
some long exposures (5 to 10 minutes) on red-sensitive DCG
in Denisyuk format. Some bright holograms were produced,
but they had contour bands across the image. As I recall,
the bands were about 3/8 inch wide. In another case, I
used a less powerful diode to do shorter exposures on
Slavich material. These holograms didn't show those
pronounced contour bands as before, but they were still
weakly visible if you looked carefully, and thinner this
time, maybe around 1/16 inch wide. I don't recall the
expsoure times in these latter tests, but I was using a
pointer-type diode to expose PFG-03M plates that were 2.5 X
2.5 inches, so it was a lot longer than just a few
seconds. What I believe is happening is that the diode is
changing its wavelength very slightly during the exposure
(I guess that's basically the same thing as "mode-
hopping"). Actually, two-wavelength contour holography is
quite common in the literature, and it was stated (as I
recall) that the smaller the wavelength change, the bigger
the contour bands become. I've also read that it's
possible to detect mode-hopping by allowing the beam (or
part of the beam) to intercept a photodiode which is then
connected to a sensitive AC voltmeter. (The sensitivity of
this voltmeter has to be very high, beyond that of commonly-
available meters.) When the laser is mode-hopping, a weak
AC singal will be produced via the photodiode, since there
will be a rapid back-and-forth switching effect as the
diode changes from one wavelength to another. I tried to
monitor my diode in this way, but I was not certain (to say
the least) that I was actually detecting mode-hopping.
This might have been due to the meter I was using. It's
been quite a while since I did these experiments, and maybe
someone else can shed some light on the subject. I would
really like to use one of the new Hitachi 35mW diodes which
emit at ~635nm (and which are said to cost ~$152) but I
wonder if they will be prone to mode-hopping, even with
active temperature control. 216.65.173.82
Jonathan - Sun, Dec 02, 01 01:06:32 PM
Thanks for the input, guys. Your information confirms my
suspicions about this type of banding problem. If a way
could be found to work around it, if not completely solve
it with active heat control, then at least holographers
could use the shorter wavelength red diodes like the 635 nm
Hitachi. I'm wondering if this mode-hopping problem is even
more prevalent in the blue diodes. (Power Technology sells
a 25 mW which emits at 405 nm, for example).
Tom, your idea about trying to "hear" fluctuations in the
beam using a solar cell is worth a try I think. If there's
a correlation with the effect on the fringes it would at
least be possible to time the exposures to avoid it as you
say, whether it's mode-hopping or some other phenomenon.
I'm thinking of using a radio circuit as the audio
amplifier, and connecting it to a solar cell placed in the
beam path (partially of course, so as to not block it, and
to avoid flooding the solar cell). The antenna input could
then be used as the solar cell input. A suitable resistor
circuit in between would presumably be needed to prevent
overloading the radio circuit. Do you think this would work?
209.90.160.125
Tom B. - Mon, Dec 03, 01 03:03:10 AM
Jonathan - I don't think the antenna input would work
for audio. If all you have is a radio for audio
amplification, you MIGHT try connecting to one of
the volume control leads through a small capacitor
to block DC from the solar cell. And you want to
connect another lead to ground on the radio. Test
it by pointing the cell at an incandescent light
- the hum should be very noticeable.
regards, tom 24.67.253.203
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